TweakyTaka

Alan Curdie

Tweaky – Taka : PES2012 & Beyond

Highlighting the work of a personal editing community favourite and why Konami should make it easier for him.

If there is one thing that has remained consistent with PES in this generation even if the games themselves haven’t always delivered, it is the excellent output from a passionate editing community. Whether it is kits, teams, player appearances or stadiums, those editing obsessive’s have always delivered as authentic looking experience as possible for the wider community to reap the benefits of.

The editing community consists of more than just these wonderful artists and their wonderful creations, however. Delve deeper into the editing scene and you will find tactical maestro’s who manage to eek out (some would say ‘’fix’’) more from the game that can enhance user experience further thanks to the tactics and strategy options available which although relatively deep, could offer more.

I wish to shine the spotlight on the work of an editing community figure whose work is something of a speciality in itself and always seems to breathe new life into the gameplay experience for me just when I need it most year in, year out. His efforts are not something you see, more so feel.

Super Monkey’s Ball

Chimps – with – Quiffs has specialised in extensive stats edits on the PES series for some years on PS2 and PS3 and such is the quality of his work it can often feel like a PC-like gameplay patch in itself. The tweaks he performs are not wild increases or decreases in values of players certain stats across the board either, with the focus being on improving gameplay balance, response and overall fluidity while also looking to capture the playing styles found across the globe. Essentially, he is looking to make the game play more like a simulation and where a FIFA or NBA2K has gameplay sliders to look to achieve similar (though 2K’s efforts blow EA’s clean out of the water regards impact) Chimps treats each players stats as gameplay sliders in themselves. No mean feat which must take hours upon hours of testing to get it feeling and playing just right, which it does.

Chimps has said that his tweaks on this PES2012 have produced some of the most satisfying results in all his years doing this gameplay edit work and I would tend to agree with him.

Playing the game on -1 speed and with 0 bar passing assistance, matches play out with more of a tactical edge on Super Star difficulty, with the COM showing a great deal more patience and creativity than found with the default settings. While the game plays slower, it feels more responsive and I don’t know what magic Chimps has performed but player individuality is better overall, while being far more grounded into the bargain. Worth noting as well that the R2 dribble does not feel as sticky which is always going to make me happy and although the game may well be slower, the games better passers and dribblers still have that little more zip in their play. Finally, playing on Super Star difficulty, my opinion is that the AI doesn’t cheese it in the way it is known only to well for with ‘’vanilla’’ values. Most games I have played of late have been decided by only a single goal which keeps things very interesting.

Slider Tackling

It begs the question if PES should in fact look to implement gameplay sliders for future releases and make the work of Chimps and others who may wish to get involved in such tweakery far easier. I’ll be blunt and say that I found EA’s slider solution implemented rather cack-handedly, with it lacking the scope required to make it work, thus putting me off the idea completely. It should also be said that I have a level of mistrust of what the merits of gameplay sliders are and have been of the opinion that they are designed more as a developer work around instead of them just getting it right out of the box.

It has been only since I have started playing 2K sports’ marvellous NBA2K12 have I seen the merits of gameplay sliders. Where FIFA’s brush strokes via slider manipulation are broad, 2K have it so as players careful adjustments of a wealth of variables can result in a gameplay experience that allows for a full, real-time simulation of a game to play out to near but not quite perfection in terms of flow, incident and post-game statistics. That is mighty impressive considering it is but a mere videogame simulation of the sport in question using 6year old hardware. Players and even coaches have tendencies sliders as well, so you can essentially customise their behaviours independently of their attributes and formation/tactical/strategic assignments. Imagine something like that in PES where each team could have an AI coach that works in tandem with assigned tactics/strategy and could even change things up. Deep, and maybe contrary to my belief that a realistic real-time 90min match would not be achievable nor a desired gameplay experience, it could well prove possible if those in the community are given the tools to do the job.

To close this quick op-ed, I would encourage UK BLES code PS3 users to try out the game with Chimps tweaks. Special mention of course must go to Goalgerd and Klashman, who are behind the kits, stadiums, formations and tactics in the wonderful European Club Soccer file in which Chimps’ efforts compliment. Links Below…

Base file (required for kits, emblems, rosters) – HERE

Chimps – with – Quiffs Edit File – HERE

As always, we encourage you to get involved in the discussion in our forums or use the comments section below to share your thoughts.

40 Responses to Tweaky – Taka : PES2012 & Beyond

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  1. Chimps says:

    Also about the shooting, whilst its not fixed, its better using my files as I have improved it a lot and generally improved forwards at smaller teams so they can be entertInng to play with and more challenging to play against, which is more or less the thinking behind all of my files – games should be challenging on top player no matter who you play against and should entertaining no matter which team you use

  2. Kitana Media says:

    Kop 05,

    I have no idea what you are getting at, and frankly I’m really confused. Either you’re trying to pick at something that’s not there, or you’re simply lost.

    This article is about a PS3 patch, written by WENB. You then say we said PES needs to get Xbox 360 users back and insinuated we said would try to help that. I asked for the link to that, yet you link a statement from Adam saying Konami need to focus on Xbox 360 users as they’ve lost the platform.

    That’s not what I asked for. That statement is about Konami needing to help the 360 platform. You said we said we were going to do 360 content.

    So yeh, either an apology from yourself, or we’ll class your posts as trolling in the future.

  3. Chimps says:

    It’s it a WENB patch. It’s a gameplay patch I wrote.

  4. Kitana Media says:

    Sorry Chimps, was that aimed at me?

    I know it’s yours fella, don’t get mixed up. Read what I wrote again. I said the article is written by WENB. As far as I know you can’t write a patch, just create one ;)

  5. I Love Sock says:

    Why are we not getting a patch with fixed shooting? I still have both demo’s installed on the PS3 and shooting is fine?

  6. Chimps says:

    Wasn’t aimed at you, I think the time difference between what some people post and it being modded and put up, makes it easy for conversations to get mixed up.

    I will have an update out soon. Could have had finished quicker, but can stop playing Barca v Madrid and Argentina v Brazil after a bit of extra tweaking.

    I will also re-post the full option file if people are having trouble downloading it

  7. kop 05 says:

    No i read it wrong , was not trying to upset as i did say i apologize if so and i do

  8. PES6 says:

    I wish it were that online as well, without Barca, Real and Argentina all the time! Send this change for Konami please!

  9. Guest User says:

    I can’t download the edit file, it says that the sharing functionality on filesonic has been disabled. Can someone please upload the edit file on rapidshare ? Thanks

  10. PES6 says:

    This download is also for the American version of PES 2012 (area 1)?

  11. Gui Cramer says:

    @PES6:

    No, only for PES 2012 originally purchased in the UK.

  12. Kitana Media says:

    No problem Kop 05, honest mistake ;)

    @ Guest User, I’ll upload elsewhere at some point today. Keep an eye on the comments section.

  13. Guest User says:

    @ Kitana Media, thanks very much :)

  14. Kitana Media says:

    Guys, can you help out Guest User?

    I’ve realised I don’t have the file to upload, must have deleted it from desktop (doh!)

    Filesonic has been taken down thanks to SOPA, so if anyone could upload (Chimps maybe you could?) to somewhere else I’d appreciate it.

    Thanks.

  15. chimps says:

    I will post up an updated game play file when I get back to my home pc.

  16. Kitana Media says:

    Thanks Chimps!

  17. Chimps says:

    Latest game play file. I have increased player response and added some further skills to players. The game should now feel more fuid and open. Testing done using mostly in Estádio da Luz as it plays best during the day and night

    All english teams re-edited, top french, italian and spanish teams also tweaked further.

    Stamina increased on these teams to help with stamina problems in the master league

    https://rapidshare.com/files/2218915370/CHIMPSGAMEPLAY103B.rar

    Let me know what you think

  18. Justin 31 uk says:

    Dear Chimps,

    Thank you so very much for all your wonderful hard work covering the stat editing and roster updating. I can see it must have taken you a very long time to complete. Classic Brazil is nuts :-) with awesome players added in like Socrates – Roberto Carlos – Rivaldo etc.

    The game play now feels like a considerable improvement – it feels like playing version 1.03(1/2) – like half a patch – so thank you!

    I have a requst for you, if I may -

    I have noticed that classic England for example has not been given the kind of boost you gave to classic Brazil. Would you mind having a look into that? – and maybe seeing if you could add any more classic football legends into the relevant teams?

    Classic England do not have either a Right Wing Forward or David Beckham – have you added Becks into the game? I cant seem to find him.

    I look forward to your future tweaking and now consider these improvements to be like official stat updates that I will always be happy to install.

    Its great to have people like you in the PES community and I hope Konami will take notice of your contrbutions and make contact with you over future PES games.

    Kindest Regards,

    Justin

  19. Guest User says:

    Thanks for the upload Chimps!

  20. harris says:

    hey guys please i need the newest patch for ps3 winning eleven 2012 korean version (blks 20301)